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gee4
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« on: October 22, 2009, 10:39:34 am »

Has anyone received a pay rise or salary increase without being informed?

My company paid out backdated salary increases in September.  However, I only knew about it because I heard individuals discuss it.  It seems the union have been in negotiations with management for quite a few months over this.

I have to say I find this quite strange that I receive my payslip as normal but have to work out what the percentage increase is.  In previous employment if a pay rise was implemented, employees received notification in writing, in advance of receiving their payslip.

Do I have to be in the union to receive this info?
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2009, 03:27:05 pm »

I have seen things like that happen, but usually only when it is COLA (Cost of Living Adjustments) where it is across the board to everyone. How very odd!

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« Reply #2 on: October 23, 2009, 11:19:29 am »

Hmm.  That is a bit weird (it's the company (literally) that you keep, Gee!!).  We've yet to hear what ours is - but I know it'll be small - I just count myself lucky that I'm still in employment, and my family too.
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« Reply #3 on: October 23, 2009, 11:24:32 am »

The problem is everything is so union orientated here and I haven't been used to that.  Apparently in days gone by when employees joined this company, they had to join the union at the same time.  In recent years that rule was obviously slackened.

I just think it's unfair that I cannot be privy to such information, which is relevant to me, without literally paying for it.
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« Reply #4 on: October 23, 2009, 11:45:44 am »

I agree.  At the very least you should get a letter saying what the percentage increase is.  It's so darn tricky working it out for oneself - at least it is for a maths dunce like me. Huh

HR should surely produce these??
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« Reply #5 on: October 23, 2009, 11:49:36 am »

Er, you would think so , but no.  The union announce the payrise.
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« Reply #6 on: October 27, 2009, 03:16:14 pm »

My recent email to HR asking for info has been acknowledged and should have been passed to A.N. Other to respond.

However it might have been a good idea to put A.N. Other's name in the To box, instead of just mine!

It's definitely not temp staff that are incompetent  Tongue
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« Reply #7 on: October 27, 2009, 06:10:34 pm »

Our payrise announcement is late in coming, too.  Generally it's in September.  I understand that the "unions" (within the university) have gone from requesting a fairly hefty percentage increase to very little as long as they're no redundancies.  That's fair enough, I guess...
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« Reply #8 on: October 27, 2009, 08:45:04 pm »

I knew from a review that I was due a raise.  However my manager at that time admitted that he had communication issues.  The managers were given their raises but there was a payroll snafu that hourly employees were not updated on the same schedule.  (Great for morale.)  My manager rather than face any grief from employees decided to just not tell anyone.  When confronted he had the gaul to say well I got mine I'm sure you will get yours soon!  The same manager also did not inform me of the percentage of my raise and only gave me my review (necessary to get any increase) because I went to HR and complained!
Thinking back on some of these managers I really appreciate my current situation!
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« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2009, 08:59:29 am »

I was off yesterday but received an email to confirm pay rise percentage, current salary and the grade/level.

It's like pulling teeth trying to get information in this place!
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« Reply #10 on: October 31, 2009, 09:42:01 pm »

My last raise, duein Feb., was delayed and not paid until August.  Unbeknownst to my boss or me, they had made the decision to forego all raises 6 mos and not communicate.  Hmmmm.  Now, we have been informed there will be no increases for next year at all and we are furloughed 5 days.  However, every communication that does come from HR is contradictory, so who no one really knows where we stand at this time.  Just thankful to at least be employed.  The rest will fall into place.
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« Reply #11 on: November 02, 2009, 02:41:39 pm »

I'm pleased to learn that your workplace has a union, Gee.

There are a couple of issues I would like to pick up on here.

Union set up:Trade union legislation here in the United Kingdom was amended some years ago, under the Thatcher administration, to remove the "closed shop" practices that had existed until then.  Previously, unions in many companies were able to insist on employees being members of the union. Nowadays, that is not the case - employees can achieve union recognition if they fulfil certain criteria, but not all employees in a company that is "organized" have to belong to that union.  They may belong to another union (but the other union may not have recognition - negotiating rights - in that company - or no union at all. A number of people won't join unions for all sorts of reasons: they see no value in it (until they need representation), moral grounds, they object to the particular union chosen, they "can't afford" the union fees, or they object to paying a political levy as part of their subscription fees.  There is an escape clause enshrined in law to the latter objection.  If your union is affiliated to a particular political party and you don't wish to fund that party, then you can sign a special form releasing you from paying the levy.

Who tells what and to whom:It is management's responsibility to announce any pay increases to all staff.  It is the union's responsibility to communicate with its members and, indeed, to achieve the best possible outcomes for its members.  If you are not a member of the union, you will not, unfortunately, receive any information from the union reps - only from your employers.

That said - congratulations on your pay increase.  A lot of companies are not funding increases this year, so you are very fortunate.



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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2009, 01:41:46 pm »

Well, it's now November and we still haven't heard.  Although I hear unofficially it's happening, will be backdated, but will only be about 1%, I think.  Still, better than nothing and the job is still secure.

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« Reply #13 on: November 10, 2009, 05:00:47 pm »

Gem,

Just thinking about this and whilst it's better than nothing, 1% does seem rather mean.  I've heard of 2% but never any lower. 

It would hardly equate to anything once you are taxed.
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2009, 12:43:28 pm »

Gem,

Just thinking about this and whilst it's better than nothing, 1% does seem rather mean.  I've heard of 2% but never any lower. 

It would hardly equate to anything once you are taxed.

It is extraordinarily low and will be quite the lowest I've ever received.  But I did exceptionally well what with one thing and another last year, so will try my damnedest not to complain too loudly  Lips sealed

Should equate to a packet of Pringles a week, I guess!  Good job I like Pringles  Smiley Still waiting for the "good news" - perhaps coming in this month's paypacket?  Who knows!!
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