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gee4
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« on: January 20, 2012, 07:18:01 pm »

I responded to the article on the home page, would be interested to hear others' thoughts on the subject -

http://www.deskdemon.com/dnet/userpage.php?page_id=534
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« Reply #1 on: January 20, 2012, 09:04:00 pm »

Gee,

I posted a reply on the article page.,
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« Reply #2 on: January 23, 2012, 10:02:32 am »

Thanks Chikky.

Will be interested to hear/read more.
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« Reply #3 on: January 23, 2012, 05:31:50 pm »

The recommendations in the article would simply not work in my company.  Our pay rises are negotiated by our staff trade union each year.  It is a system that works quite well for us.

I did work, many years ago, in a company where pay was agreed by a remuneration panel based on the outcome of annual appraisals.  Everyone received the lowest uplift, but any further uplift was calculated according to the appraisal result. 
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gee4
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« Reply #4 on: January 23, 2012, 07:30:49 pm »

I can relate to that BR.
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« Reply #5 on: January 23, 2012, 09:35:53 pm »

Our company has an annual review process we all dread.  Then a max % raise is determined by the powers that be.  If I get more than the max % someone else has to get less. So it really wouldn't matter if I went to my boss with a list of accomplishments, recommendations from other managers bells whistles, it is what it is.
As one co-worker says
I have a job
It pays me every two weeks
I get xx days vacation every year
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« Reply #6 on: January 23, 2012, 09:44:15 pm »

And I can relate to you to Atlanta.  Seems to be the same everywhere.

I'm not sure if it's because of the job we do, or how the company structure is set up.  Either way, me going the extra mile won't make a blind bit of difference in my job, my salary, or my career, and it never has made a difference anywhere I've worked, which I think is shocking.

That's not to say I don't do my job.  I do it to the best of my ability as I have done all my working life.  It's just very sad there are no rewards in the process.
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« Reply #7 on: January 29, 2012, 08:30:07 pm »

I have tried to follow similar advice as found in this article during past annual performance reviews, which is the only time  raises are discussed--all to no avail.

What finally got my boss's attention was when I told him I suspected that others in my position were making more than me.  (non-union shop)  He finally checked that out with HR, and I received a raise this year to make up the difference.  This is one more thing you might want to try, if all else fails. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: January 29, 2012, 09:44:42 pm »

That's half the problem, the PAs in my company are all at the same level earning the same salary, yet we work for different level managers and directors.

There is no annual increment, no career path and therefore no incentive...it makes us feel unworthy.

That's why this year I chose to upgrade MS Office certfication and ask them to pay the fees.
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