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« Reply #15 on: October 21, 2010, 08:51:32 pm »

No Marie.  No agenda for the first meeting because I'm guessing no one knew or planned the structure, and no minutes from the first meeting hence me being the only one to carry out an action.

I suggested future meetings are minuted and an action list circulated and was informed it will be raised at the next meeting.  So you can assume no minutes for yesterday's meeting either.

It was agreed yesterday that a template would be devised and circulated to each of the secretaries to complete.  We have been asked to break down our tasks into average hours which the tool will then automatically calculate into a percentage.  It should have been done that way in the first place instead of me wasting my time on an action no one else bothered about.

I couldn't agree more...there is a total lack of organisation.  When my boss saw the email about the template today he was surprised and asked me what it was about.  I began to explain to him what happened at yesterday's meeting and how I was the only one who had actioned a request.  He agrees with me that it's nonsense and that HR should have been driving this from the start.  At least as his secretary I did what was asked of me.

It is clear I have a completely different attitude to this exercise than the other secretaries.  Is that because I am the newest member of the group and haven't been around too long or because they have been stuck in a rut and are disgruntled with management?
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« Reply #16 on: October 26, 2010, 01:23:56 pm »

I was chatting with one of the Secretaries yesterday following last week's meeting.

Not only did this individual not carry out the action from the first meeting, but she informed me she isn't going to complete the template either.

What is wrong with these people that they can just blantly refuse to do something?  How can a situation be resolved if others will not contribute or do what is asked of them?  Is she afraid of having her workload laid bare?! 

Again I was totally shocked at her attitude and the games that are being played by others.
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« Reply #17 on: October 26, 2010, 03:45:58 pm »

Too enamoured of their own greatness and status within the firm.  I get it here too! Angry
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« Reply #18 on: October 26, 2010, 03:50:06 pm »

I hear others are dithering about completing the template also.

I understand this exercise may not resolve the underlying issues, but surely everyone's workload alters on a daily basis and grading cannot be measured upon workload alone.
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« Reply #19 on: October 26, 2010, 05:14:29 pm »

Gee, you would have thought so, but bear in mind the ones that complain the most probably have the least work to do and what work they do do is substandard or foisted onto some other poor soul who never gets the recognition or rewards - hail to the unsung heros who we all know but very few say thank you to! You know who you are and you all deserve better! Smiley

There is even a person here who is supposed to be the secretarial supervisor for the ML team who takes great delight in 'managing the TL team's work when they (and we) don't have enough bottle washers - even her boss hit the roof when it was my turn to lumbered (I was doing the entire ML team monthly billing exercise as well as my ordinary work at the time too, plus my additional credit control!) Angry
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« Reply #20 on: October 27, 2010, 08:08:57 am »

It's quite annoying to say the least.

I'm beginning to think they all just want upgraded and a huge pay rise without doing any work to justify it.
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« Reply #21 on: October 27, 2010, 09:11:37 am »

They also may not have heard that good, hardworking better people than them are losing their jobs because of the 'age of austerity' and the recession!

god help us, come the revolution (as my mum says!)   Cool
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« Reply #22 on: October 27, 2010, 09:53:13 am »

I agree Jess.  They have been too well looked after in this company to know what losing their job is all about.
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« Reply #23 on: November 02, 2010, 03:38:16 pm »

I have seen it happen too many times over the course of the years, it eventually catches up.  This too shall pass:)
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« Reply #24 on: January 21, 2011, 06:14:15 pm »

Well 2 months on from submitting the "template" there has been no feedback so I asked for an update on where we are, next steps etc.

It seems there was a 2 hour meeting scheduled this week, a further meeting to review data, from what I can gather.  Makes you wonder how many meetings there have been to "review data".

Instead of being informed of what is going on, we have to do the chasing, but then I find that quite typical.  It's always the PA who is pro-active in these situations.

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« Reply #25 on: January 24, 2011, 02:16:38 pm »

Gee, please don't tell me you are surprised by the goings on!  It is, after all, their reason for being - attending endless meetings that produce no final decision/result.

As my earlier post on this stated, god help us come the revolution (which incidentally is starting in Tunisia and Algeria from what I hear from DH's family who live in Algiers!)  Roll Eyes
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« Reply #26 on: January 24, 2011, 02:20:18 pm »

I guess I'm still learning.

What's the point in starting an exercise when you can't keep those concerned informed?  It's not my way so I find it odd.
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« Reply #27 on: January 24, 2011, 02:35:45 pm »

Can you think of any other reasonable reason why anyone would want to employ them other than to attend meetings and discuss stuff?

Exactly!
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« Reply #28 on: January 24, 2011, 02:48:50 pm »

It's very unmotivating...is what it is!

No incentive to do well or perform if there's no opportunity to better oneself.
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« Reply #29 on: April 21, 2011, 09:14:24 am »

I cannot believe I am posting this...

Today is 21 Apr.  Bearing in mind we close next week for Easter and do not re-open until 3 May, there has been no update, no correspondence and no feedback re this exercise.

How can management expect us to take them seriously when they cannot even communicate with us?

If this was the other way round, they wouldn't stand for it.  I find it appalling behaviour from a company of this size.  Is it any wonder the other admins have lost heart.  I am just beginning to realise how they feel.
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