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« Reply #15 on: December 05, 2011, 10:07:49 pm » |
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I think you are right.
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« Reply #16 on: December 05, 2011, 11:17:34 pm » |
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Ahh, that makes sense. Just goes to show how easily things are miss-understood when different countries have diffierent meanings for the same word/phrase.
I often have the situation when an agenda has gone out that someone comes to me and says they need something to be included on the agenda. Because the committee members must have the agenda 3 working days before the meeting, if this new item does not meet that timeframe, and if it cannot wait until the next meeting's agenda, it will be 'tabled', ie does not appear on the agenda but will come under Any Other Business (usually) or Chair's items.
If it is an item that was on an agenda at a previous meeting that was dealt with and closed, but for some reason comes up again, this would be under Chair's Items to raise again (but does not appear on the agenda but will of course be on the Minutes). However, this is where I can see 'Old Business' being useful as it clearly shows to committee members that this has been raised before but for whatever reason, it has been felt necessary to raise again. As I said before, it can then be looked up on previous minutes or crossed referenced so members can have the previous history of this item should they so wish.
I think if you can be one step ahead of the committee members, and perhaps do their thinking for them, as in putting it under Old Business and providing copies of the Minutes where the item was previously discussed, then they will appreciate it.
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« Reply #17 on: December 06, 2011, 01:17:44 pm » |
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I've been confused too, and I think MsMarieh is right, we are talking about different things.
As noted above, in the UK, tabling an item means that this is something not originally planned for discussion at the meeting, but something urgent enough that can't wait till the next means that it is tabled (ie raised) on the night. If there are papers related to it, these should be filed with the meeting papers so that there is a complete set (hard copy or electronic!) for posterity!
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« Reply #18 on: December 06, 2011, 04:36:56 pm » |
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So what is it called in the UK if you bring up a motion, and someone makes a motion to delay voting or discussing the matter to the next meeting? (This language stuff is so fascinating to me!)  |
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« Reply #19 on: December 06, 2011, 05:02:39 pm » |
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Add it to the next agenda or AOB as I suggested.
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« Reply #20 on: December 07, 2011, 10:20:54 am » |
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Just a thought, but has anyone thought to ask where the Chair wishes to see the item on the agenda (could be before the Minutes of the previous meeting, could be just after, could be near or in the AOB's or it could be the last item just before noting the date of the next meeting) - perhaps the Chair themself has a preference! Jess |
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« Reply #21 on: December 07, 2011, 11:48:37 am » |
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I did say above this should be under Chair's Business.
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« Reply #22 on: December 07, 2011, 05:40:23 pm » |
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Delaying something to the next meeting would be minuted as such and added to the next agenda.
A tabled item doesn't have to be taken at the end of the meeting as AOB. In fact I have this tomorrow night where we have a tabled item (because of the timing of the occurrence which requires the item to come to this meeting). It will be taken immediately at the start of items for decision as it is important.
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